SzeYing is the founder of Ventur-io, which builds talent connections between Asia and the US.
Previously, she helped rebuild the National University of Singapore Overseas College during Covid ā particularly in New York City.
Today, in 10 minutes or less, youāll learn:
- šøš¬ How this National University of Singapore Overseas College Manager Became a Talent Bridge Between US and Asia
- šŖ Key Habits and Actions to Build an International Career
- šØš³ Building Businesses in Singapore vs Beijing vs the US ā the Must-Know Differences
- šØ Top 3 Mistakes Founders Make When Breaking into the US MarketĀ
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šŗšøĀ Breaking into the US market from Asia
SzeYing is the founder of Ventur-io, which builds talent connections between Asia and the US, and the former program manager of NUS Overseas College, Singaporeās premiere work-study abroad experience. Her mission is to be a multiplier, accelerating the growth of businesses and individuals alike. She thrives on hosting gatherings and weaving together diverse groups of people. With the global experiences gained from her work in Singapore, China, and the US, she's all about sharing those epic tales and connecting with others.
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Tell us about your career journey going from managing programs for NUS Overseas College to helping Singapore founders & professionals enter the US market.
First, quick intro: the National University of Singapore (NUS) Overseas College program is a one-year entrepreneurship program where selected students are sent globally to intern in a startup while coming up with their business plan.
Each student have to form a group and pitch a business idea to the university, and theyāll receive seed funding to get started if their idea gets approved.Ā
My job as a program manager in New York City ranges from interviewing and selecting students, preparing them for job interview, mapping out their growth potential, sourcing for startups who are hiring, building workshops and mentorship program. It was a life-changing experience for me too. I unexpectedly discovered so much about myself.
In all honestly, I was hesitant about taking on this role. I felt I didnāt have the patience to deal with college students (GenZ). But having the opportunity to rebuild the program (it was shut down due to covid and we lost 90% of previous partners) in a new city Iāve never lived in is a challenge Iām excited about.
I didnāt expect this role to be so fulfilling. When students graduated and wrote me a thank you note, it felt like all the āhair-pulling momentsā were worth it. Itās great to be part of someoneās growth journey.Ā
I took on a corporate job because my previous startup failed majestically during Covid - itās a story for another day. I burned my savings and still have bills to pay so I chose āstabilityā while figuring out whatās next. I knew I wanted to build something again but I didnāt have an idea yet.
Through this role, I worked with many brilliant founder founders who told me the same things - that Iām good at identifying talents and matching them to the right role based on skillset, mindset, and growth potential. They even asked me to help them hire full-timers (beyond my day job).
I also noticed friends who are great at what they do but theyāre burnt out because of ābad managers/bossāāwhile many great founders who struggled to hire good talents because (1) limited budget (2) lack of awareness of their early stage startup (3) insufficient time to focus on hiring.
Iāve always enjoyed connecting good people together, so I guess I stumbled into my āmission for the next stage of my lifeā:
Which is to connect good talent to good founders.
I left my role at NUS in May and started the talent business to connect Singaporeās tech talents to US startups.
Why Singapore? Iām starting with Singaporean because we have an exclusive work visa with the US (H1B-1) which does not require balloting, and application is open all year round with a 2-3 days processing time only.Ā
As the hiring market is pretty rough right now, we have pivoted to remote internships where we curate top talents from Singapore and South Korea to US startups. Students work remotely at any time of the year, not just during the summer break.
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Youāve built a fascinating global career, working in Singapore, Beijing, and New York. What habits or actions did you take that helped you grow your career internationally?
To be honest, Iāve been extremely lucky to have landed my roles in Beijing and New York.
It was an accumulation of the work Iāve done previously that led me to these opportunities and Iām forever grateful for it!
If I can share my two cents on how/why it happened, here it is:
- Doing my best work at each moment. Before landing my first role in Beijing, I had no idea what role or industry I wanted to be in. However I knew very clearly that I wanted to work in China, so I actively put myself in projects or attended events related to China. I kept doing it for 3 years and didnāt set a timeline, I was just trusting the journey along the way.Ā
- Similarly, when the first opportunity came for New York City, I wasnāt even thinking about it. (But I had the intention to work in Silicon Valley a year before this.) The opportunity came because the hiring manager worked with me on a couple of projects in our previous role. He thought that I was the best person for the role because of the work Iāve done and the values I stand for. I was recommended for the role, interviewed, and got the offer.
- How you do one thing is how you do everything. People can see your work ethic and feel your passion. When an opportunity comes along, you never know whoās going to move the needle for you. So set intentions, have a general direction on where you want to go then let go of the outcome and do your best work. Trust that the journey will bring you to where you need to be. Be patient, things donāt happen overnight.
- Network. I was very intentional with the people I wanted to surround myself with and shaped my own experience. I went for every tech event I could find in the city for the first 2 months. I also run dinner parties to connect with good people I met. Since I canāt meet everyone for coffee individually, I decided to host dinners every month to connect with interesting people Iāve met along the way.
- Put yourself out there when youāre in a new city or environment. Give before you take. We have a lot more to give than we think we have.
- Volunteer in a project that you are passionate about. I spent some time organizing tech events in Singapore, Beijing, and New York with Startup Grind and made many friends through volunteering! Your friends are your support system when youāre living alone in a new city (shoutout to my amazing friends out there!)
- Be curious. When I first moved to New York, I walked everywhere to check out the streets, buildings, and shops in the city - once I walked 2 hours from my house to Chinatown. Attend different types of events, and social meet-ups. Say yes when your friends invite you to do a new activity. Go on road trips with friends you just met. Visit the museum, learn about the city/countryās history, and understand the social-political environment. Doing things not directly related to work recharges me, which helps me think better as well.
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What are the biggest differences between building businesses in Singapore vs Beijing vs the US?
Iāve spent some time in China and the US, but Iām still no expert in this topic. Here are my observations based on my experience:
- Ease of setting up an entity as a foreigner. I would say itās pretty straightforward to incorporate a company in all 3 countries (even as a fully foreign-owned entity) but I think the struggle comes with taxation. Information is not readily available in China, while it's extremely complicated in the US, and relatively straightforward in Singapore.
- An additional layer of challenge for China is the ability to move money out of the country. Trust me, itās extremely painful. There are some ways to get around it, for example setting up a joint venture between a Singapore & Chinese company (since the two countries have strong bilateral and business partnerships). Iām no expert in this, but happy to chat more separately offline (:Ā
- Localization. Itās crucial to localize in every country but China is a different beast altogether. I would say there are two parts to localization.Ā
- First, itās product localization - China has its ecosystem for everything from web browsers to payment systems to e-commerce. Itās very insulated and big enough to be. Plus, the language difference and, more importantly, the UI/UX is pretty different. If you observe the e-commerce apps, the Chinese consumers are used to a certain way of display, aesthetics, and user flow. For instance, less white spaces to prioritize functionality - instead, they prefer a layout where everything is on the first screen/webpage they visit.
- Second, itās the people localization - To date, we have not seen a single successful major company that is fully foreign-owned. To even lift off from the ground, you need at least one local partner/co-founder on the team who understands the Chinese consumers, manages government relations, manages the local team, and fund-raising. Ā The fact is that business is done in Chinese, so speak the language, and understand the cultural nuances or youāre out.
- Cultural differences are very real. Relationships matter everywhere but we have to understand the cultural nuances. In my own experience, here is a subtle difference I observed when building relationships in each city.*
- US: Relating to them via personal value systems and interests before talking business. Having a strong personal brand/being charismatic goes a long way.
- China: Help them see the business win so they would want to cultivate the relationship with you. Once you win them over, theyāll be very loyal as business partners and a friend.
- Singapore: Usually pretty transactional. Strive for a win-win situation and business gets done. The personal relationship develops over time with deeper business collaboration.
*At the end of the day, staying grounded and being yourself is still the key to building relationships.
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What are the top 3 mistakes you see founders and professionals make when breaking into the US market?Ā
- Not getting professional advice for legal matters (tax & accounting) and HR (employment law differs with each state). Many international founders underestimate how cumbersome the legal processes can be in the US, they think itās fine to just wing it along the way but the consequences are usually more costly than they think it is.
- Thinking that they can start penetrating the US market by engaging a distributor to handle local sales. You need to commit time and money to be in the US to understand your customers and build your own sales channel. Many companies fail because they are not localized enough. They did not do enough market research, thinking that the US is a homogenous market.Ā
- Underestimating the amount of marketing work that needs to be done. The US is a marketing-heavy market where brand awareness and alignment of values are crucial to converting new users and retaining them.Ā
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What are counterintuitive or non-obvious advice would you give to founders and professionals looking to break into the US market?
Donāt be afraid to try. The US is a huge market. Keep testing your hypothesis because itās always never accurate. It may seem daunting to take the first step, and yes it will be. But youāll learn fast, fail fast, and build fast when youāre in the market. Donāt try to test the market from your home country. You have to be in the US to build relationships and understand the nuances.Ā
There are many great business advices on the internet, so let me share more personal advice.
Stay grounded and confident of who you are. Letās be real, Americans are great storytellers. Many founders are charismatic and can charm you right off the bat. They seem like they got it all figured out (but most of the time, no they donāt). So donāt be intimidated or feel like youāve to put up the same showmanship (some of it is good).
Be confident of who are you, and tell your story in your own way. We donāt have to put up a completely different persona when we are in the US. We are good enough, being ourselves - be confident of your culture, your accent, or anything different about you. Adapt and integrate but maintain your core self.
Where can we go to learn more about you?
Follow me on Linkedin, X and my website to find out more. Reach out if youāre looking for a remote role with a US startup or looking for a high quality intern.
Iāve also prepared a starter guide (101) for people who are new to SF and NYC tech ecosystem.
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